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  • Car Paint Depth Guides

    This is a collaborative thread to give an indication of paint depths in cars from the factory (or as close to factory as possible)

    Please post your findings below and we will start getting a list together. Please try to avoid cluttering the thread with questions etc. Would like to try to keep it to specific posts of paint depths

    When posting, please use the following format:

    Make: xxxx
    Model: xxxx
    Year: xxxx
    Average Paint Depth range (Microns): xxx - xxx
    Paint Type: CoB or SS

    NOTE: This is intended as a basic guide only and based on the experiences of members here. Detail Paradise, nor the members contributing to it are not responsible for damage incurred on vehicles whilst using this thread as a guide.





    Paint Type Legend:

    SS = Single Stage
    CoB = Clear over Base coat

    Aston Martin
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    DB9 2013 180 - 220 CoB Caffeine Fiend
    V8 Vantage 2006 120-180 CoB Caffeine Fiend
    Virage 2012 178 - 246 CoB Scott_NanoShine

    Ferrari
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    430 2008 159-224 CoB Scott_NanoShine
    458 2011 128 - 171 CoB Scott_NanoShine

    Holden
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Commodore Acclaim 2004 120 - 150 CoB Bluering
    Commodore SV6 Ute 2012 78 - 108 CoB Scott_NanoShine

    Honda
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Accord 2007 92 - 129 CoB carab
    Integra Gen 3 1994 90 - 110 CoB carab


    Hyundai
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    i30 2011 97 - 140 CoB AussieTimmeh


    Lamborghini
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Gallardo Spyder 2008 121 - 143 CoB Scott_NanoShine

    Land Rover
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Evoque 2012 120 - 130 CoB Caffeine Fiend


    Lexus
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    IS-F 185 CoB 200sxdog


    Mazda
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    2 2005 67-115 CoB LIBERTYRX1
    3 2010 110 - 120 CoB Caffeine Fiend
    323 Protege 70-90 CoB 200sxdog
    CX5 201x 70-120 CoB SimoHDK
    RX8 2003 - 2011 120 - 130 CoB Caffeine Fiend

    Mitsubishi
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Evo x 2012 85-105 (Alu panels lower) CoB N1mx


    Subaru
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Forester 1999 120-140 CoB 200sxdog
    Forester 2006 110 - 130 CoB Bluering

    Toyota
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Hiace 2009 62 - 78 CoB Scott_NanoShine


    Volkswagen
    Model
    Year
    Approx Depth (Micron)
    Paint Type Supplied By
    Passat 2011 120 - 130 CoB Twister
    Scirocco R 2012 150 - 160 CoB Caffeine_Fiend


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  • #2
    04 VY acclaim 120-150
    06 subaru forester 110-130
    Hey Dan should we also have a spot to record what would be considered the low reading that you would touch?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by bluering View Post
      04 VY acclaim 120-150
      06 subaru forester 110-130
      Hey Dan should we also have a spot to record what would be considered the low reading that you would touch?

      Cars added.

      Re the low reading, do you reckon that would change drastically from car to car though?

      I tend to excercise caution when sub 100, extreme caution when sub 90, and tend not to really want to touch areas that are sub 80. Or is this too general you think?


      Also, maybe we need to add a field which specifies Single Stage Paint (SS), or Clear over Base coat (CoB)? Thoughts?


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Caffeine_Fiend View Post
        Re the low reading, do you reckon that would change drastically from car to car though?

        I tend to excercise caution when sub 100, extreme caution when sub 90, and tend not to really want to touch areas that are sub 80. Or is this too general you think?


        Also, maybe we need to add a field which specifies Single Stage Paint (SS), or Clear over Base coat (CoB)? Thoughts?
        I don't really have the experience to know if all makes have roughly the same amount of base coat.. I did a Mazda 3 that someone had been chasing really deep rids on the bonnet they had run out of clear in one spot I measured that at 80 microns ...I'm pretty sure the roof of my forester is at its limit at around 80 microns aswell .
        I don't know how it works with single stage paint but I think it would be good to differentiate and maybe get some feedback on aswell...
        I think the sponsors would benefit from this resource as people would be more likely to purchase a gauge if this info was available. IMO
        Last edited by bluering; 11-12-2012, 11:35 AM.
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        • #5
          If anyone can add 07 Mazda 6 and 2011 Mazda RX8 that would be brilliant.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bluering View Post
            04 VY acclaim 120-150
            06 subaru forester 110-130
            Hey Dan should we also have a spot to record what would be considered the low reading that you would touch?
            Was the Acclaim single stage?


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            • #7
              Doh sorry ...both were Clear over Base
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              long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin

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              • #8
                Thanks. Added


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BobsRX8GT View Post
                  If anyone can add 07 Mazda 6 and 2011 Mazda RX8 that would be brilliant.
                  dont know if anyone that takes a reading off a 2007 mazda would still be standing. If they are, they might still be trying to recalibrate their pdg. I had figure in the 80-90s on a "undetailed" mazda 3
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                  • #10
                    Shit. I thought it was the RX8 I had to be careful with not the 6. Damn.
                    Last edited by BobsRX8GT; 11-12-2012, 01:00 PM.

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                    • #11
                      80-90 undetailed?? lol. Someone's having a lend I reckon.


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                      • #12
                        i suspect it had a free dealer buff originally but my understanding is Mazda is notoriously thin.

                        I have a 2007 mazda 2 coming in this weekend. Ill see what figures its comes up with. This one is definately untouched
                        Last edited by LIBERTYRX1; 11-12-2012, 01:02 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Lowest / Highest Readings -

                          Aston Martin Virage - 2012 - 178-246 microns
                          Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder - 2008 - 121-143 microns
                          Ferrari 458 - 2011 - 128-171 microns
                          Ferrari 430 - 2008 - 159-224 microns
                          Holden Commodore SV6 Ute - 2012 - 78-108 microns
                          Toyota Hiace - 2009 - 62-78 microns

                          I'll go through more photos another time and see what else i can find.

                          All vehicles hadn't been polished to my knowledge besides being hacked at pre-delivery, our SV6 brand new was well under 90 in most areas. lol

                          Originally posted by Caffeine_Fiend View Post
                          I tend to exercise caution when sub 100, extreme caution when sub 90, and tend not to really want to touch areas that are sub 80. Or is this too general you think?
                          Its all a guessing game when you move into low numbers unless you know exactly how thick the clear alone is.

                          Here's what I've been told by a head Audi tech from Germany a couple of years back at the motor show while he was hanging around after the show, the primer creates the base for a uniform finish and due to the technology of panel stamping being so advanced these days the primer and colour coat is being sprayed a lot thinner then it used to be and the clear makes up majority of the thickness.. Something like: Primer - 8-38microns, Base Colour - 13-42microns, Clear - 38-102microns.

                          He also mentioned that the UV elements due to their weight in the clear raise and settle to the top of the coating while the clear sinks - even with nano clears like CeramiClear, making the top 50% of the clear where the UV inhibitors are. Polishing more then half the clear off can cause premature failure. Apparently manufactures actually specify exactly how much clear can be taken off before the warranty is void, on average its around 25%.

                          He sent me a very informative link to a website about clear coats, the uv protection in them and how it all works, i will dig it out later.

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                          • #14
                            Hey Dan , I know we are Aussies...not Americans,or Poms and we don't need to blame every one but ourselves when shit don't go to plan .....But should we ...no wait....Do we need to have some kind of disclaimer in the userguide start of the page to say this is a basic guide not gospel?
                            "The bitterness of poor quality remains
                            long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin

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                            • #15
                              Interesting read Scott. Yes would be interested to read that link.

                              Originally posted by bluering View Post
                              Hey Dan , I know we are Aussies...not Americans,or Poms and we don't need to blame every one but ourselves when shit don't go to plan .....But should we ...no wait....Do we need to have some kind of disclaimer in the userguide start of the page to say this is a basic guide not gospel?
                              Yep, good call. Have added one in.






                              THanks everyone so far for your contributions. Keep em coming. I will add as we go.


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