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    Hi all, I am very new to detailing. Just bought a 2009 e60, and i want it to look mint within budget. Will highly appreciate if anyone could point me to the right direction.

  • #2
    Hi there. Sounds like you've started off the right way with a nice ride. Love the E60 Bimmer. A few questions with your request?

    Define "mint": Factory fresh or just really tidy?
    Define "budget": Got a spare $50 or just won the lotto?
    If a full detail, are you looking to do all the work yourself or do you need a professional to assist?
    Just looking to maintain an already neat machine with the right wash gear?

    Plenty of answers to be found on here. Just need to know what you are looking for

    Mick


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    • #3
      Hi Mick,

      Definitely I would like to go as close I can be towards factory fresh, but I believe it will burn a big hole in my pocket as I have not much idea about detailing. My car has very nice exterior and the paint is still very good for a 8 year old car.I am currently getting some work done on the front bumper to remove a small dent, and after that I want to give it a very good detail. Now once I say the word 'detail' I am not really sure what it means, in my mind I want it to be scratch free shiny etc....Sorry but I am a big noob at this.

      If the job is not really hard I would like to do it myself as I really enjoy these kind of challenges, always great to have a new skill . But at the same time I dont want to mess up my car's paint in any way. Hope I did not make this post too confusing to understand, just spoke my heart

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      • #4
        Oh I forgot to mention, I can spend about 200-300 for now, as I some major job on the car this month. But I am definitely willing to wait and save up for something that might give me good benefits on the long run like those professional detailing packages. Shoot away any advice would be highly appreciated.

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        • #5
          For that budget, I'd aim squarely at maintaining what you already have.

          I'd start with:
          A good quality, ph-neutral shampoo like Angelwax Superior Shampoo, Dodo Born To Be Mild, Duragloss Car Wash Concentrate, etc. - $30
          A microfibre wash mitt and waffle weave drying towel. No sponges or chamois! - $40
          Two (but really three) buckets, one with a grit guard. One wash, one rinse, one wheels. Never mix buckets! - $40-50 for fancy ones. $20 for the grit guard.
          Spray wax or other protection. Something like Duragloss Aquawax or Angelwax QED would work a treat. $30-50
          (Assuming leather interior) Angelwax Heaven for Leather and Hide-Rate to get the pews looking and feeling great. Can use the Duragloss Leather care system too. $60-70
          Bunch of microfibre towels for every purpose! - $24 for 36 from Costco, $10+ for specialised towels for glass, final wipe, leather, etc

          Mick
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          • #6
            Hi rezvisquikz,

            Welcome to the forum.

            $200-300 buys you very little in terms of tools and consumable to correct any defects on your paintwork ie polisher+pads+polishes/compounds. But buys plenty of decent consumables to maintain your car as good as you can as suggested by QIKMIK.

            What's the condition of the paintwork of your car at the moment? Any pics? Are you unhappy with any aspect of your car's presentation at present?

            Pics of a fellow hk detailing forum member using my dual action polisher for the first time on his early E60 where he owned since the car was only 1 year old. He just wanted to learn the techniques to buff the paintwork once or twice over properly and be good for the next 5 years. Prior to that he simply washed his car as carefully as he could and hand polished/wax his car with all in one products that merely covered by the fine scratches and swirls on the paintwork.

            Got him to try out a 2 step correction to see the results for himself, first step was buffing with Scholl S3XXL coarse compound on a MF cutting pad, followed by finishing off with Meguairs M205 on a Rupes yellow polishing pad. With the paint being original BMW factory hard paint there was only very mild hazing left by the cutting stage and he was even happier after the 2nd stage. The end result was as close as you could get to factory fresh.





            Last edited by EG30; 06-09-2017, 09:14 AM.

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            • #7
              Thanks mike, great info on the products to buy, however i am really interested in using that polishing buffer thing mentioned by EG30. Is this something anyone could do ? Or i could damage the paintwork . I see there are circular paint scratches from the previous owner probably using the car wash alot. How much would a decent buffer cost me? And what is the process of doing 2 stage correction? If it is in a reasonable price range i would like to give it a try. Please advice, u guys are awesome

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              • #8
                Would this be a good choice ?

                https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/p..._polisher_das6

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rezvisquikz View Post
                  Not really, it's cheap but it's very lame and vibrates a lot more than the modern and up to date DAS 6 Pro Plus ( the same one used on the E60 in the pics ):

                  https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/p...o_polisher_l15

                  On a car with hard paint like your E60, the 8mm throw machine makes correcting medium to deep defects very hard work. We live in 2017 not 2003 there is no point buying no tech 1st gen DA polishers anymore. If the $340 price tag of the L15 ( das 6 pro plus ) is too expensive, you can buy the same from Aliexpress shipped from China to your door for under $200.

                  Unless you are willing to invest a lot of time and a lot more than $200-300 on top of your detailing essentials kit; think twice before venturing into the world of paint correction.

                  I believe you are much better off paying a detailer to do the corrections required for your car, start from a clean slate and maintain your car best you can from there. You could either go to a pro shop near you or pay a fellow forum member who is competent in your local areas to perform the corrections for you; and most likely able to watch how he does it and learn from it.
                  Last edited by EG30; 07-09-2017, 04:18 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I just spent the last night researching 2 step paint correction method. Youtube videos look very simple but, I am still scared that I might ruin the paint. But I think I will never know until I try it and go less aggressive with the polisher. Thanks for mentioning that the product I was looking at is outdated. So I was looking at this kit combined with the polisher you have advised. - https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/p...lisher_l15_kit

                    I am willing to give it a shot, but maybe I should see how its done in real life. I am relocating to melbourne soon, and I would like to get a 2 stage pc done within the next week. Any idea what a ballpark figure might look like if I asked around in this forum(I live in Hornsby NSW)?

                    I think I should also mention that their is a slight dent in the front bumper, that a smash repairer is willing to fix , basically remove dent with heat and then blend the color(damaged area only), is it better to do the polish after its done or prior?

                    Thanks in advance.

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                    • #11
                      Hey EG30, would you recommend me a polisher from Ali express and your choice of pads for use on e60? So many to choose from that I am confused.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rezvisquikz View Post
                        Hey EG30, would you recommend me a polisher from Ali express and your choice of pads for use on e60? So many to choose from that I am confused.
                        http://detailparadise.com.au/forum/g...products/page2

                        I won't bother with Aliexpress pads, buy Shinemate pads locally from waxit au instead.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rezvisquikz View Post
                          I just spent the last night researching 2 step paint correction method. Youtube videos look very simple but, I am still scared that I might ruin the paint. But I think I will never know until I try it and go less aggressive with the polisher. Thanks for mentioning that the product I was looking at is outdated. So I was looking at this kit combined with the polisher you have advised. - https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/p...lisher_l15_kit

                          I am willing to give it a shot, but maybe I should see how its done in real life. I am relocating to melbourne soon, and I would like to get a 2 stage pc done within the next week. Any idea what a ballpark figure might look like if I asked around in this forum(I live in Hornsby NSW)?

                          I think I should also mention that their is a slight dent in the front bumper, that a smash repairer is willing to fix , basically remove dent with heat and then blend the color(damaged area only), is it better to do the polish after its done or prior?

                          Thanks in advance.
                          Dude if I was moving from NSW to VIC in the next few weeks paint correction would be the last thing on my mind. Wait till you get to Melbourne and settle down first.

                          Definitely repair your bumper first before paint correction on the whole car.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EG30 View Post

                            Dude if I was moving from NSW to VIC in the next few weeks paint correction would be the last thing on my mind. Wait till you get to Melbourne and settle down first.

                            Definitely repair your bumper first before paint correction on the whole car.
                            I thin you are right, i will get my car bumper fixed first. Also i bought these items , https://i.imgur.com/0SwRFN4.png

                            To wash and maintain my car, rather than the wash method i was previously using.

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                            • #15
                              G'day,
                              My 2 cents worth is to buy a DA polisher as a kit with pads polishes etc or spend some time chatting with one of the sponsor's to bundle up some together.
                              My experience was to practice with the least aggressive combination to get a feel as to how it would feel on the car and look at the results.
                              Then I tried out the more aggressive pad polish combination and really noticed the difference with how much correction was possible.
                              My reasoning with doing it this way was that I would be unlikely to remove to much clear coat while developing a feel for the machine.
                              I think that as long as you have watch a number of videos on how to and stay away from rotaries and aggressive pads you should be OK with it all.
                              Lots of fun and satisfaction with getting it all shiny of your own back.
                              Cheers
                              Damo

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